Emperor Constantine
Christianity is a copycat religion created by Emperor Constantine (for political purposes) based upon a myth (The Persian savior god Mithra, crucified 600 B.C. ? 400 B.C.?), which was based on other similar myths, all the way back to Chrishna of India (a mythical god that some claim was “crucified” around 1200 B.C.). There were 16 mythical crucifixions before Christ. The belief in the crucifixion of Gods was prevalent in various oriental or heathen countries long prior to the reported crucifixion
of Christ. Of the 16 crucifixions, most were born of a virgin and about half of them on December 25th.
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There were too many religions in Rome in 325 A.D. A Council was called in an endeavor to amalgamate the many religions of the Roman Empire into one. Christianity plagiarized older myths and legends historicized to suit the Roman Catholic Church while combining the numerous religions existing at the time (Krishna, Horus, Mithraism, Osirian, Isis, and many other mystery religions). For unity and to stop all the conflicts between the numerous religions…
Christianity was INVENTED.
Eusebius (Bishop of Caesarea in Palestine “Father of Church History“) attended the Council of Nicaea in 325 A.D. and was a friend of Emperor Constantine, who also attended and made the keynote speech. Constantine instructed Eusebius to organize the compilation of a uniform collection of new writings developed from primary aspects of the religious texts submitted at the council. Eusebius has been described as follows: Jacob Burckhardt (19th century cultural historian) dismissed Eusebius as ”the first thoroughly dishonest historian of antiquity”. He has been also described as “a political theologian”. He favored doctoring his history in his own words to “be useful first to ourselves and afterwards to posterity”. Edward Gibbon (18th century historian –“The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire”) dismissed his testimony on the number of martyrs and impugned his honesty
At first, there was controversy about the new religion at the Council of Nicaea. Some claimed it was a fiction and Christ was a fiction, but they did not prevail.
http://www.mountainman.com.au/essenes/Council%20of%20Nicaea.htm
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(To be clear on this matter, I say don’t trust Eusebius’s reports of the Apostles or how the Apostles died, and be suspicious of all of his writings.) - Author Samuel Butler
Eusebius then arranged for scribes to produce fifty sumptuous copies to be written on parchment in a legible manner, and in a convenient portable form, by professional scribes thoroughly accomplished in their art (ibid.).
Bishop Eusebius
These orders, said Eusebius, were followed by the immediate execution of the work itself we sent him [Constantine] magnificently and elaborately bound volumes of three-fold and four-fold forms (Life of Constantine, vol. iv, p.36). They were the New Testimonies, and this is the first mention (c. 331) of the New Testament in the historical record. With his instructions fulfilled, Constantine then decreed that the New Testimonies would thereafter be called the word of the Roman Saviour God (Life of Constantine, vol. iii, p. 29) and official to all presbyters sermonising in the Roman Empire.
He then ordered earlier presbyterial manuscripts and the records of the council burnt and declared that any man found concealing writings should be stricken off from his shoulders (beheaded).
NONE OF THESE 50 NEW TESTAMENTS EXIST TODAY OR ARE ADMITTED TO EXISTING!
THIS NEW TESTAMENT WAS THE OFFICIAL BOOK OF THE NEW UNIFIED RELIGION OF CONSTANTINE NOT THE BIBLE!
ALL OTHER BOOKS TO BE BURNED ,THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE TORAH/OLD TESTAMENT
IT INCLUDED BURNING THE GREAT LIBRARY OF ALEXANDRIA IN EGYPT 391 A.D.
In 391 A.D., Christian Emperor Theodosius I ordered the destruction of all pagan (“heathen” they were also called) temples. The Christian Patriarch Theophilus of Alexandria (Egypt) complied with this request. Seizing this opportunity, Theophilus exerted himself to the utmost to expose the pagan mysteries to contempt, the Serapeum also he showed full of extravagant superstitions, (and) the commander-in-chief of the troops in Egypt, assisted Theophilus in demolishing the heathen temples (and) then he destroyed the Serapeum. -Historia Ecclesiastica
The Serapeum housed the Great Library of Alexandria.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_alexandria
Why there are no records of Jesus Christ?
Federic William Farrar
It is not possible to find in any legitimate religious or historical writings compiled between the beginning of the first century and well into the fourth century any reference to Jesus Christ and the spectacular events that the Church says accompanied his life. This confirmation comes from Frederic Farrar (1831-1903) of Trinity College, Cambridge:
“It is amazing that history has not embalmed for us even one certain or definite saying or circumstance in the life of the Saviour of mankind … there is no statement in all history that says anyone saw Jesus or talked with him. Nothing in history is more astonishing than the silence of contemporary writers about events relayed in the four Gospels.” (The Life of Christ, Frederic W. Farrar, Cassell, London, 1874)
This situation arises from a conflict between history and New Testament narratives. Dr Tischendorf made this comment:
“We must frankly admit that we have no source of information with respect to the life of Jesus Christ other than ecclesiastic writings assembled during the fourth century.” (Codex Sinaiticus, Dr Constantin von Tischendorf, British Library, London)
There is an explanation for those hundreds of years of silence: the construct of Christianity did not begin until after the first quarter of the fourth century, and that is why Pope Leo X (d. 1521) called Christ a “fable” (Cardinal Bembo: His Letters…, op. cit.), and later Pope Paul III expressed similar sentiments, saying that there was no valid document to demonstrate the existence of Christ. He confessed that Jesus never existed, adding that he was no other than the sun, adored in its Mithraic sect…”
BUT WAIT, WHAT DOES THE CATHOLIC CHURCH SAY ABOUT THIS?
You will be surprised:
From: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biblianazar/esp_biblianazar_40.htm :
What (your local) Church doesn’t know and/or wouldn’t want you to know, if they knew.
It has often been emphasized that Christianity is unlike any other religion, for it stands or falls by certain events which are alleged to have occurred during a short period of time some 20 centuries ago. Those stories are presented in the New Testament, and as new evidence is revealed it will become clear that they do not represent historical realities.
The Church agrees, saying:
“Our documentary sources of knowledge about the origins of Christianity and its earliest development are chiefly the New Testament Scriptures, the authenticity of which we must, to a great extent, take for granted.” (Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. iii, p. 712)
The Church makes extraordinary admissions about its New Testament. For example, when discussing the origin of those writings, “the most distinguished body of academic opinion ever assembled” (Catholic Encyclopedias, Preface) admits that the Gospels “do not go back to the first century of the Christian era” (Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. vi, p. 137, pp. 655-6).
This statement conflicts with priesthood assertions that the earliest Gospels were progressively written during the decades following the death of the Gospel (sic) Jesus Christ. In a remarkable aside, the Church further admits that, “the earliest of the extant manuscripts [of the New Testament], it is true, do not date back beyond the middle of the fourth century AD”– (Catholic Encyclopedia, op. cit., pp. 656-7).
That is some 350 years after the time the Church claims that a Jesus Christ walked the sands of Palestine, and here the true story of Christian origins slips into one of the biggest black holes in history. There is, however, a reason why there were no New Testaments until the fourth century: they were not written until then, and here we find evidence of the greatest misrepresentation of all time. It was British-born Flavius Constantinus (Constantine, originally Custennyn or Custennin) (272-337) who authorized the compilation of the writings now called the New Testament.
Yes, but what about references to the four Gospels supposedly before the 3rd Century A.D.?
For example: What about Tacitus, Roman Historian, who wrote about the persecutions of the early “Christians”?
Regarding Tacitus, (Senator and Historian of the Roman Empire) these writings supporting the persecution were mysteriously found in the 15th century in the forests of Germany, following a reward offered by Leo X for old writings, and following a history of forgeries in Catholicism: In any case, there has been serious questions about the integrity of the famous passage about Christians.
From: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/tacitus.html
Gordon Stein denied the authenticity of this passage, arguing:
(1) no corroborating evidence that Nero persecuted the Christians
(2) there was not a multitude of Christians in Rome at that date
(3) Christian was not a common term in the first century
(4) Nero was indifferent to various religions in his city
(5) Nero did not start the fire in Rome
(6) Tacitus does not use the name Jesus
(7) Tacitus assumes his readers know Pontius Pilate
Yes, but what about Josephus?
His reference to Jesus in Testimonium Flavianum has been claimed as a later addition, (Forgery-Author) not questioning the authenticity of the main work.
See: http://www.truthbeknown.com/josephus.htm
Yes, but what about Pliny the Younger’s letter to Emperor Trajan 112 A.D. (Pliny was not a contemporary of Jesus, and he never mentions “Jesus”?) Pliny the Younger (c. 61 – c. 112), the provincial governor of Pontus and Bithynia, wrote to Emperor Trajan c. 112 concerning how to deal with Christians, who refused to worship the emperor, and instead worshiped “Christus”.
What about that?
Charles Guignebert
Charles Guignebert, who does not doubt that Jesus of the Gospels lived in Gallilee in the 1st century, nevertheless dismisses this letter as acceptable historical evidence:
“Only the most robust credulity could reckon this assertion as admissible evidence for the historicity of Jesus” – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus
Nevertheless, I was concerned about the possibility of far older Gospels when I was stating that Christianity was invented around 325 A.D., but the research thread leads back to Eusebius, the FORGER, (“Papias, quoted by Eusebius…”).
Eusebius was the dishonest Church Father historian of antiquity who made up a lot of Church history. “we shall introduce into this history in general only those events which may be useful first to ourselves and afterwards to posterity”. The research thread (about older Gospels) also leads to the “spurious” writings of Irenaeus: http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/gospels-late-forgeries/blog-249881/ .
THE RELIGIOUS QUICKSAND OF EARLY CHRISTIAN WRITINGS.
A SCHOLAR AND YOU WILL BE QUICKLY SWALLOWED UP IN QUICKSAND RESEARCHING SO-CALLED “PRE-NICENE” WRITINGS.
What about pre-nicene so-called “Early Christian” (Gnostic?) writings? They disagreed with each other, were riddled with conflict and forgeries, of questionable and confusing timing and origin , had conflicting opinions about supposed truths, and were not coherent enough for an organized religion. So the myth of Mithra, the Persian Savior God, was chosen by Emperor Constantine and Bishop Eusebius as the model to create the new religion , Christianity. What if there are references to Christ and/or Jesus in pre-nicene writings? That doesn’t mean Jesus or Christ existed. What if there are references to “fairies” in pre-nicene literature? That wouldn’t mean fairies existed, prior to the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD or later, even if the Council claimed the existence of fairies and made it doctrine, with severe penalties for those who denied their existence.
Yes, but what about Church father Justin Martyr’s purported use of the New Testament gospels?
From Acharya S., Biblical scholar: (http://www.freethoughtnation.com/contributing-writers/63-acharya-s/679-does-justin-martyr-quote-the-gospels.html)
“No verbatim quotes or unambiguous citations from the canonical gospels as we have them appear anywhere in Justin’s extant works.”
Matthew, Mark and Luke are never named by Justin; nor is John.
Nor does Justin Martyr name any of the evangelists in any known text
In any case, the Catholic Encyclopedia itself supports the thesis that the Gospels of Christianity were written no earlier than the 4th Century: ”the earliest of the extant manuscripts [of the New Testament], it is true, do not date back beyond the middle of the fourth century AD”– (Catholic Encyclopedia, op. cit., pp. 656-7).
Retired Episcopal Bishop says Hell is an invention of the church to control people with fear:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=5BkP9-HG8-I
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Shelby_Spong
Information about Eusebius, Constantine, and Paul.
FATHER EUSEBIUS, FORGER:http://www.christianity-revealed.com/cr/files/fathereusebiustheforger.html (One view, for what it’s worth-a bit harsh)
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All bishops can go flog themselves along with so-called gods,why I aughta’!!!
Good post! (:
Good post, very informative. I think I’ll show this to all the people who insist their religion is completely original.
Very interesting and informative, I’m surprised no one has made a documentary about this…or have they? Anyway, I would suggest including citations to keep it from sounding propaganda-y. If someone can refer to the unbiased texts from where this information came from, I think it would bolster the credibility immensely.
Yes, I have added citations.
Thanks,
Samuel
“the most distinguished body of academic opinion ever assembled” (Catholic Encyclopedias, Preface) admits that the Gospels “do not go back to the first century of the Christian era”
(Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. vi, p. 137, pp. 655-6).
In a remarkable aside, the Church further admits that,
“the earliest of the extant manuscripts [of the New Testament], it is true, do not date back beyond the middle of the fourth century AD”
(Catholic Encyclopedia, op. cit., pp. 656-7).
Yes, but what about Tacitus, Roman Historian,
who wrote about the persecutions of the early “Christians”?
Regarding Tacitus, (Senator and Historian of the Roman Empire) these writings supporting the persecution were mysteriously found in the 15th century in the forests of Germany, following a reward offered by Leo X for old writings, and following a history of forgeries in Catholicism:
In any case, there has been serious questions about the integrity of the famous passage about Christians.
From: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/tacitus.html
Gordon Stein denied the authenticity of this passage, arguing: (1) there is no corroborating evidence that Nero persecuted the Christians; (2) there was not a
multitude of Christians in Rome at that date; (3) ‘Christian’ was not a common term in the first century; (4) Nero was indifferent to various religions in his city; (5) Nero did not start the fire in Rome; (6) Tacitus does not use the name Jesus; (7)
Tacitus assumes his readers know Pontius Pilate;
Yes, but what about Josephus?
His reference to Jesus in Testimonium Flavianum has been claimed as a later addition, not questioning the authenticity of the main work.
See: http://www.truthbeknown.com/josephus.htm
Yes, but what about Pliny the Younger’s letter to Emperor Trajan 112 AD (Pliny was not a contemporary of Jesus, and he never mentions
“Jesus”)? Pliny the Younger (c. 61 – c. 112), the provincial governor of Pontus and Bithynia, wrote to Emperor Trajan c. 112 concerning how to deal with Christians, who refused to worship the emperor, and instead worshiped “Christus”.
What about that?
Charles Guignebert, who does not doubt that Jesus of the Gospels lived in Gallilee in the 1st century, nevertheless dismisses this letter as acceptable historical evidence: “Only the most robust credulity could reckon this assertion as admissible evidence for the historicity of Jesus” – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus
You mention Princeton. from my book:
SHORT REVIEW OF “JESUS, INTERRUPTED”, by
Samuel Butler 7/10/2010
Bart D. Ehrman, the author of “Jesus Interrupted,
Revealing the Hidden Contradictions in the Bible (and
Why We Don’t Know About Them”) (HarperCollins, 2009)
was a fundamentalist evangelical Christian, who was
certain that every word in the Bible had been inspired by
God when he entered Princeton Theological Seminary,
intending to become a Professor of the Bible.
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As a seeker of truth, things did not turn out as he planned.
He found in historical-critical bible study classes things
that biblical scholars have unearthed in the last two
hundred years that graduates that even go on to become
pastors don’t and won’t mention in their sermons:
That the authors of the New Testament have diverging
views about who Jesus was and how salvation works.
That it contains books that were forged in the name of the
apostles by Christian writers who lived decades later.
Established Christian doctrines-such as the suffering
messiah, the divinity of Jesus, and the trinity were
inventions of still later theologians.
The idea that Jesus was divine was a later Christian
invention found only in John, the last gospel, written some
60 years after the events described, and written by an
unknown author. The raising of Lazurus from the dead,
and the divinity of Jesus are not found in any of the other
3 gospels.
The belief that Jesus was God or divine was not the belief
of Jesus’s earliest followers, nor of Jesus himself.
Bart D. Ehrman now describes himself as “an agnostic
scholar of the New Testament.”
You want details of the Crucifixions before Christ. Here are details of 16. Six would suffice to make the point that it was common for a “GOD” to be crucified : http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/kersey_graves/16/chap16.html
The Church makes extraordinary admissions about its New Testament. For example, when discussing the origin of those writings,
“the most distinguished body of academic opinion ever assembled” (Catholic Encyclopedias, Preface) admits that the Gospels “do not go back to the first century of the Christian era”
(Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. vi, p. 137, pp. 655-6).
This statement conflicts with priesthood assertions that the earliest Gospels were progressively written during the decades following the death of the Gospel (sic) Jesus Christ.
In a remarkable aside, the Church further admits that,
“the earliest of the extant manuscripts [of the New Testament], it is true, do not date back beyond the middle of the fourth century AD”
(Catholic Encyclopedia, op. cit., pp. 656-7).
Yes, but what about Tacitus, Roman Historian,
who wrote about the persecutions of the early “Christians”?
Regarding Tacitus, (Senator and Historian of the Roman Empire) these writings supporting the persecution were mysteriously found in the 15th century in the forests of Germany, following a reward offered by Leo X for old writings, and following a history of forgeries in Catholicism:
In any case, there has been serious questions about the integrity of the famous passage about Christians.
From: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/tacitus.html
Gordon Stein denied the authenticity of this passage, arguing: (1) there is no corroborating evidence that Nero persecuted the Christians; (2) there was not a
multitude of Christians in Rome at that date; (3) ‘Christian’ was not a common term in the first century; (4) Nero was indifferent to various religions in his city; (5) Nero did not start the fire in Rome; (6) Tacitus does not use the name Jesus; (7)
Tacitus assumes his readers know Pontius Pilate;
Yes, but what about Josephus?
His reference to Jesus in Testimonium Flavianum has been claimed as a later addition, not questioning the authenticity of the main work.
See: http://www.truthbeknown.com/josephus.htm
Yes, but what about Pliny the Younger’s letter to Emperor Trajan 112 AD (Pliny was not a contemporary of Jesus, and he never mentions
“Jesus”)? Pliny the Younger (c. 61 – c. 112), the provincial governor of Pontus and Bithynia, wrote to Emperor Trajan c. 112 concerning how to deal with Christians, who refused to worship the emperor, and instead worshiped “Christus”.
What about that?
Charles Guignebert, who does not doubt that Jesus of the Gospels lived in Gallilee in the 1st century, nevertheless dismisses this letter as acceptable historical evidence: “Only the most robust credulity could reckon this assertion as admissible evidence for the historicity of Jesus” – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus
I was concerned about the possibility of far older Gospels when I was stating that Christianity was invented around 325A.D., but the research thread leads back to Eusebius, the FORGER, (“Papias, quoted by Eusebius”).
Eusebius was the dishonest Church Father historian of antiquity who made up a lot of Church history. “we shall introduce into this history in general only those events which may be useful first to ourselves and afterwards to posterity”. The research thread (about older Gospels) also leads to the “spurious” writings of Irenaeus: http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/gospels-late-forgeries/blog-249881/ .
In any case, the Catholic Encyclopedia itself supports the thesis that the Gospels of Christianity were written no earlier than the 4th Century.
You want details of Crucifixions before Christ. Here are details of 16. Six would suffice to make the point that it was common for “Gods” to be crucified. http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/kersey_graves/16/chap16.html
A brilliant, fascinating post. I had already picked up bits of this history but have never seen it all collated into a concise readable whole. Well done.
Your conclusions are startling, but I’m not sure all of your facts are accurate.
The oldest fragments of NT writings date back farther than the Nicene Council, but that determination is made by subjective analysis, of aspects like writing styles, rather than by any concrete method like carbon dating (which I don’t think would work for papyrus anyway, but I don’t know).
There are many volumes of Christian writings, with thousands of pages and hundreds of thousands of words, that predate the council. I know because I own a copy of the collection, and i have a hard time thinking that these are all the work of one crafty historian. Perhaps I misconstrued your meaning there, though.
Granted, I definitely agree that Christianity is entirely a fabrication. I just think it was an earlier one, with roots in the conflicting sects of Judaism, including Messianic Judaism, that date back to the 2nd and 3rd centuries BCE.
Very nice post. If only those who are blinded by their faith would get as educated about it.
WHAT DOES THE CHURCH ITSELF SAY ABOUT THIS?
The Church makes extraordinary admissions about its New Testament. For example, when discussing the origin of those writings,
“the most distinguished body of academic opinion ever assembled” (Catholic Encyclopedias, Preface) admits that the Gospels “do not go back to the first century of the Christian era”
(Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. vi, p. 137, pp. 655-6).
This statement conflicts with priesthood assertions that the earliest Gospels were progressively written during the decades following the death of the Gospel (sic) Jesus Christ.
In a remarkable aside, the Church further admits that,
“the earliest of the extant manuscripts [of the New Testament], it is true, do not date back beyond the middle of the fourth century AD”
(Catholic Encyclopedia, op. cit., pp. 656-7).
Pretty good summary, but one thing that is missing about Nero is that he couldn’t possibly have persecuted Christians. There were no Christians in Rome until after the fall of Jerusalem in 70 CE. Uffington, WH. The Greatest Lie Ever Told.
So, I guess the Mormons aren’t any crazier than any other group of faith based believers.
Very good post. I like all references that the Roman Church admits to fabrication. However as we know most “believers” will not believe this as their whole ego is based on a lie and if this lie is found out then what do they have? They reject reason and science so what is there ? Just their fables, superstitions, customs and in some cases costumes. Mankind has a long way to go to be considered rational and intelligent.
Great post, though I find it hysterical that you use the Christianized BC and AD! Most non-religious people use BCE and CE. Funny how those little things seep in even if we don’t believe in them. Thanks, culture.
Excellent article! Yes, when there is absolutely no written mention whatsoever, in all the world’s secular and religious writings, of an alleged historical figure, for three centuries after the person’s supposed lifetime, the reason isn’t hard to divine: that person never existed. I’m sort of surprised that so few people realize that all the various “Bible” versions are fiction anthologies, and most of the persons, places, and events mentioned therein are fictional, with any similarity to actual persons, places, and events being purely coincidental. When people spew Bible quotes and expect others to accept them as truth, I just roll my eyes, because it’s rather like watching someone quote from a Harry Potter book, mistakenly believing it’s a history book and Harry Potter really exists. And sadly, when you try to enlighten such folks, it usually fails. “Harry Potter is *real*, I say!! *Real*!!! He *exists*!!!!” Sigh. On the one hand, I feel sorry for such folks; but on the other hand, I must admit to a sneaking urge to lay a 2×4 along side their head with some impetus.
How we got 4 gospels today when at the start of Nicaean Council bishops brought over 50 of gospels, some clearly contradicting each another. Father Eusebius, this evil genius of forgery and untruth, in one of his acts whose long reaching consequences we all suffer today, declared : ‘let all gospels stay overnight on the table and let our God himself decide which are true one’. Bingo, in the morning there were only 4 left on the table. They only forgot to tell us who kept the key through the night. !
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Awesome post!!
Of course this is way too logical, so why would people ever “believe” it?
Sorry about the spelling in the last post. But I am not sorry for not following a human – if he even lived- who said I must hate my loved ones to follow him. To where? Nowhere is where.
Excellent material . However, most christians and muslims don’t know the truth and furthermore, are afraid of the truth…they believe they have some strange comfort zone sitting in massive temples and churches. Sure nuff, they were born that way, given baptism and 1st communion and all the other fortifying jesus & god materials that are unsubstantiated. Yet, they will not stray from the ‘Word.’
Politicians have to be religious or pretend to be to have the masses that are god/jesus indoctrinated in order to get elected. Religions make most of their income tax free otherwise they would have to ante up a few billion every year to help the world economy.
Religions give people that are subjects, the right to torture, massacre, wage war, and commit horrific atrocities on their fellow humans. I am confounded in how any person of logic can actually subscribe to and submit themselves to praying to a god or man that represents infanticide, genocide, femicide, torture, slavery and a raging inferno of hell.
Nonetheless, things aren’t going to change. It is as if a major disease agent has been turned loose on humankind and humankind said, “Please take me, take me forever, I am yours, heart and soul, I am yours.”Any educational and fact-finding research key to reducing religious zealots in mass is unfortunately, a pipe dream. Yes indeed, pretentious religion feeds at the mouth of birth and fantasizes about the brightness in the valley of death. After all, mess with religion and your death may be imminent. They are a scary lot.
Amethyst. I am a committed atheist for the last 51 years (ie since age of 11yrs). I always use BC and AD…..it is a generational thing……. I still think in feet and inches too…..so what.
Rational arguments don’t usually work on religious people. Otherwise there would be no religious people.
pls just read this and understand ur religiou
All religions fake,but I know that I’m a Hebrew Israelite chosen by bloodline & that is all(:
Does it mean that Christianity is the result of Emperor Constantine’s singular effort? I find this contrary to previous knowledge.
No, it was a team effort of Constantine and Bishop Eusebius, the most “thoroughly dishonest historian” of antiquity. They mainly accepted the myths of Mithra, and substituted Jesus doing the same things that were ascribed to Mithra, the Persian Savior God.
Christianity as we know it, was the mistake of Jewish slaves exported to Rome after the fall of Jerusalem in 70 CE. Hence my saying that Nero couldn’t have persecuted them in my post above. Freke and Gandy explain the mistake in The Jesus Mysteries. The mistaken ideas about Christianity were then corrupted further, at a later stage by Bishop Eusebius, who wanted to enhance his political status by filtering what went into the New Testament. The vast range of earlier writings that were available made no sense to the new Literalist Christians, who had no understanding of the true teaching and therefore thought the writings were ‘eye witness’ accounts of real events.
The plot thickened and deepened as lies will inevitably ensure. Constantine had recognised Christianity as a religion, though himself remained a pagan. In 380 CE Theodosius declared the Christian Church to be the only religion that was recognised throughout the eastern and western empire. The powerful political organisation that was the Roman Emperor’s official church maintained its control through violence and oppression until recent times. Some branches of it still attempt to do so.
Eusebius’ actions are inexcusable. He was educated at the academy founded by Origen in
Caesaria, then made bishop of that city. Eusebius was a follower of the heretical Arian doctrine and as its delegate, attended the Council of Nicæa in 325 CE to argue its cause. Though the argument was lost and its leader, Arius banished, the heretic Eusebius somehow emerged as the Emperor Constantine’s biographer. Clearly to have accomplished such a feat, Eusebius owned a silvery tongue and obsequious nature. Ditching his former beliefs, he transformed himself into the Church of Rome’s historian and head propagandist. Needless to say, we must consider the work of such an unprincipled man, at best seriously unreliable and at worst, shameful invention.
Such are the attributes of one of the earliest Catholic saints. What does it say for the rest of their lies which they have yet to admit?
Thanks
like I’ve said before… Christian was invented for political intention , i already known about it since i was 12.
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It would be quite odd if numerous cultures before the Romans actually crucified their gods because it was the Romans who came up with that form of execution. Has anyone figured out yet that there is a significant difference between a resurrection and a crucifixion?
The Romans did not invent crucifixion. Crucifixion is an ancient method of deliberately painful execution in which the condemned person is tied or nailed to a large wooden cross and left to hang until dead.
Crucifixion was in use at a comparatively high rate among the Seleucids, Carthaginians, and Romans from about the 6th century BC to the 4th century AD
Can you please name these gods that were crucified?
IT’S IN THE BOOK:
From: http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/kersey_graves/16/chap16.html
The belief in the crucifixion of Gods was prevalent in various oriental or heathen countries long prior to the reported crucifixion of Christ.
Here are 16:
I. — CRUCIFIXION OF CHRISHNA OF INDIA, 1200 B.C
Crucifixion ?: Some say he was hung upside down from a tree. Other sources say he died from an arrow shot into his foot. Does it matter? They are different versions of a myth, anyway.
II. — CRUCIFIXION OF THE HINDOO SAKIA, 600 B.C.
III. — THAMMUZ OF SYRIA CRUCIFIED, 1160 B.C.
IV. — CRUCIFIXION OF WITTOBA OF THE TELINGONESIC, 552 B.C.
V. — IAO OF NEPAUL CRUCIFIED, 622 B.C.
VI. — HESUS OF THE CELTIC DRUIDS CRUCIFIED, 834 B.C.
VII. — QUEXALCOTE OF MEXICO CRUCIFIED, 587 B.C.
VIII. — QUIRINUS OF ROME CRUCIFIED, 506 B.C.
IX. — (AESCHYLUS) PROMETHEUS CRUCIFIED, 547 B.C.
X. — CRUCIFIXION OF THULIS OF EGYPT, 1700 B.C.
XI. — CRUCIFIXION OF INDRA OF TIBET, 725 B.C.
XII. — ALCESTOS OF EURIPIDES CRUCIFIED, 600 B.C.
XIII. — ATYS OF PHRYGIA CRUCIFIED, 1170 B.C.
XIV. — CRITE OF CHALDEA CRUCIFIED, 1200 B.C.
XV. — BALI OF ORISSA CRUCIFIED, 725 B.C.
XVI. — MITHRA OF PERSIA CRUCIFIED, 600 B.C.
Statement at the end of the above stated web site.
“NOTE. — The author desires it to be understood with respect to the cases of crucifixion here briefly narrated, that they are not vouched for as actual occurrences, of which there is much ground to doubt. It has neither been his aim or desire to prove them to be real historical events, nor to establish any certain number of cases. Indeed, he deems it unimportant to know, if it could be determined, whether they are fact or fiction, or whether one God was crucified, or many. The moral lesson designed to be taught by this chapter is, simply, that the belief in the crucifixion of Gods was prevalent in various oriental or heathen countries long prior to the reported crucifixion of Christ. If this point is established — which he feels certain no reader will dispute then he is not concerned to know whether he has made out sixteen cases of crucifixion or not. Six will prove it as well as sixteen. “
I’ve known that Christianity was invented (and that God or Jesus isn’t real) when I was about 8. I was sick of people telling me things that I didn’t understand, so I just rage quit. I’m 14 now, and I still firmly believe that God isn’t real, and that all the people who believe he is, are brainwashed by parents who believe in the old ways.
I believe there’s a documentary about this called “Selling God”
Right on. Most get their religion from their parents.
Fascinating and very informative. I have always wanted to know how pre-Christian religion suddenly disappeared. The history of invented narrative and forgery by Catholicism is especially interesting. Can you recommend any books as an introduction on this subject? best, Max.
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Re your original blog, yeah right! Doesn’t show much real scholarship, more popularist.
If you wish to follow up research about the religions contemporary with the original Christianity, then the book I mentioned in a previous post will be useful: Freke & Gandy’s The Jesus Mysteries.
My own book is fully referenced too, but covers more content: from the origins of Judasim and the religion of Akhenaten, through the battles of the Celtic Christian Church against the Roman one, to the post–Enlightenment attempts to restore the original Christian values that were lost by the crude religion that we know today. The Greatest Lie Ever Told, WH Uffington.
it is child abuse by brainwashed parents to force their kids to a church since they are toddlers, where they are brainwashed at many levels: gold and candles for their eyes, bells and chanting for their ears, incense for their nose, and the most horrible primitive abuse: circumsison … let your kids become 18, and let them choose their own religion … if they ever buy into one !
Interesting. However, in ‘Caesar’s Messiah’, Joseph Atwill suggests an earlier date for the New Testament forgeries. He describes the political climate in which the ‘fable’ of a Jewish prophet of peace was created to pacify the turbulent and militant Jewish communities. He also identifies the similarities between the narrative of Jesus’s life and the life of Titus Flavius, 1st century emperor. Where does scholarship stand on the date of authorship of the gospels? Are there good cases both for a late 4th century and 1st century authorship?
good post. It is very informative and useful to me.
Thank you for sharing your helpful knowledge.